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FW: CHIEF OF NAVY ? - WHAT NEXT ?
I received the attached
from an ex Warrant mate
of mine in Surfers.
I think the story tells
itself. Comments
Please!!!!!
I
was
wondering
if
you
and
your
Defence
Minister
have
completely
lost
control
of
the
ADF
or
has
the
whole
ADF
machinery
lost
the
plot?
I
doubt
you
will
have
the
time
or
interest
to
read
what
I
write
here
but
as
my
local
member
and
the
assistant
to
the
Minister
for
Defence
(that’s
another
laugh)
I
felt
the
need
to
write
after
reading
VADM
Barrett’s
speech
and
session
at
the
War
Memorial
in
June
this
year.
I
refer
to
the
recent
(June
23rd)
debacle
by
Vice
Admiral
Tim
Barrett.
I’m
personally
now
ashamed
to
say
I
served
in
the
RAN
after
his
performance
and
toadying
up
to
one
particular
cult
(not
a
religion
in
my
eyes).
Further
why
on
earth
was
he
allowed
to
use
the
war
memorial
for
this
political
stunt. The
Chief’s
appalling
judgment
offers
a
disappointing
vignette
of
how
and
where
the
madness
of
PC
and
“inclusion”
is
leading
the
ADF—the
navy
in
this
case.
VADM
Barrett
should
know
that
such
a
hallowed
venue
would
be
off-limits
for
the
exploitation
of
political/religious
partiality.
He
should
also
know
that
unlike
Christianity,
Islam
does
not
separate
religion
from
state
and
that
political
directions
of
Islam
are
derived
directly
from
the
Qur’an.
I
noted
with
disgust
that
apart
from
the
Muslim
war
dead
the
102,000
of
various
and
no
religion
service
men
and
women
were
not
acknowledged
in
the
Navy
Chief’s
remembrance,
quote:
“I
commence
my
address
in
this
place
of
remembrance
by
paying
tribute
to
all
those
Muslims
who
lost
their
lives
in
war
in
service
of
Australia
and
whose
names
are
recorded
here
in
the
cloisters
of
the
memorial.”
Further,
With
fewer
than
20
Muslims
serving
in
the
RAN,
normal
logic
would
suggest
any
such
minority
should
fit
the
navy,
not
the
reverse
as
seems
to
be
the
case
here—unless
bias
exists
in
senior
ranks!
In
all
my
days
in
the
Navy
I
never
saw
an
Admiral
or
senior
officer
pick
out
one
religion
above
another
as
he
has
in
this
case,
quote:
I am
delighted
to
be
able
to
host
this
Inaugural
Navy
coordinated
Iftar.
I
have
fasted
today
in
solidarity
with
you
all,
to
properly
immerse
myself
in
the
experience
and
purpose
of
Ramadan
and
to
gain
an
appreciation
of
the
challenges
and
rewards
Muslims
experience
during
this
important
month
in
the
Islamic
calendar.
Will
the
good
Admiral
also
be
observing
the
religious
high
points
for
Jews,
Buddist,
Hindu
and
seventh
day
Adventists
etc
etc.
If
so
he
will
not
have
much
time
for
anything
else.
Really,
what
a
farce.
His
platitudes
and
waffle
ridden
speech
was
little
more
than
spin
and
I
would
like
to
take
some
of
his
points
to
task:
“what
should
be
done
by
Navy
to
meet
the
legitimate
religious
needs
of
those
members
of
the
Islamic
faith
is
done.
Henceforth
Navy
will
always
need
advice
on
how
to
be
an
inclusive
recruiter
and
employer
of
choice
for
those
Australians
who
profess
Islam.”
” It
provides
a
great
deal
of
information
on
the
beliefs
and
practices
of
all
the
religions
represented
in
the
ADF.
It
provides
clear
guidance
on
the
following
matters:
§
Religious
observances
at
work,
the
facilitation
of
prayer
and
leave
for
religious
festivals.
§
Bereavement
leave
§
Uniform
regulations
and
permissible
variations
in
dress
§
Medical
Treatment
§
Dietary
needs
and
fasting
§
Worship
and
in
the
worst
case
Death
in
service.
Are
you
guys
MAD!!!.
Do
you
really
understand
what
this
means.
Let’s
just
take
one
element
of
the
5
pillars
of
Islam,
the
need
to
pray
5
times
a
day.
Spare
me
the
platitudes,
your
telling
me
that
somebody
else
might
need
to
stand
a
watch
or
relieve
one
of
these
people
so
they
can
go
and
pray
at
the
appointed
time.
I
expect
that
also
means
a
special
compartment
needs
to
be
allocated.
What
the
hell
are
you
going
to
do
about
the
scran
(food)
issues
or
are
you
proposing
everyone
on a
ship
will
need
to
go
Halal
or
have
separate
messing
facilities
to
suit
these
people.
What
happens
to
dress
of
the
day
requirements?
I
won’t
even
pretend
to
know
what
would
happen
if
action
was
being
taken
against
an
opposing
Muslim
force.
Probably
the
Muslims
on
board
would
be
forced
to
abstain,
that
would
be
interesting
to
see
how
a
Skipper
handled
it
or
is
it
already
mandated.
“The
Minister
said:
Increasing
the
breadth
of
the
RACS
to
include
the
Muslim
faith
reflects
the
ADF’s
pastoral
care
responsibilities
for
all
its
members
and
is
entirely
consistent
with
Defence’s
commitment
to
cultural
reform.”
“The
Navy
I
lead is
a
work
place where
men
and
women
of
all
faiths
should
be
able
to
offer
service
to
Australia and
meet
their
religious duties,
without
compromising
either
obligation.
“
Cultural
reform
my
foot.
You
guys
are
rolling
over.
Let
me
be
clear,
the
old
Navy
I
knew
wasn’t
perfect
but
we
knew
how
to
get
a
job
done
and
we
had
a
hierarchy
of
command
that
was
respected
and
served
us
well.
We
also
had
the
Naval
Discipline
Act
which
also
worked
despite
the
complaints
of
the
do-
gooders
that
threw
it
out.
What
you
seem
to
have
instituted
is a
softly
softly,
cuddly
little
uniformed
extension
of
the
public
service.
I
joined
the
Navy
as a
vocation
and
a
dedication
of
service
to
my
country,
not
just
as
“job”
or
“workplace”
Whilst
I’m
on
that
subject,
the
“workplace”
or
as
we
knew
them
ships,
are
a
farce,
mostly
unreliable
and
poorly
acquired
leftovers
or
out
of
date
designs.
The
maintenance
of
these
“workplaces
is
also
appalling
as
the
crews
don’t
fix
anything
anymore.
In
fact
I
don’t
think
they
even
stay
onboard
their
“workplaces”
whilst
they
are
in
harbor.
Thus
civilian
security
has
charge
of
the
“workplace”
and
who
knows
how
they
are
supposed
to
look
after
these
advanced
systems.
“So
what
are
these
Navy
values
that
our
people
live
by?
They
are:
Honour,
Honesty,
Courage,
Integrity
and
Loyalty.”
Admiral…
these
are
not
values!
These
are
absolutes.
Values
in
my
day
were
mateship,
obedience
and
dedication.
That
aside,
let’s
look
at
how
these
so
called
values
stack
up
for
the
Muslim
sailor
Honour,
-
they
honour
and
Obey
Allah
above
all.
Honesty,
-
They
can
lie
to
non
Muslims
if
it
furthers
the
cause
of
Islam
Courage,-
For
them
this
means
death
is a
blessing
which
puts
everyone
on a
vessel
(sorry
workplace)
at
risk
Integrity
–
Only
to
Allah
and
other
Muslims
and
Loyalty-Only
to
Allah
I
will
finish
by
saying
when
I
joined
the
Navy
I
put
my
hand
on
the
Bible
and
swore
allegiance
to
the
Queen.
When
I
raised
the
new
Australian
white
ensign
in
London
for
the
first
time
we
sang
God
save
the
Queen.
Tell
me
that
these
traditions
(apart
from
God
save
the
Queen)
are
still
carried
out
and
I
would
be
surprised.
It
is
still
the
ROYAL
Australian
Navy
and
by
my
reckoning
if
you
join
you
should
forego
other
allegiances
as
the
paramount
requirement.
This
includes
allegiance
to
Allah,
this
includes
wearing
the
uniform
as
issued
not
a
special
one
just
for
you,
this
includes
being
obedient
to a
chain
of
command
regardless
of
your
religious
leanings.
What
you
are
doing
is
highly
divisive
and
will
be
the
slow
death
of a
fine
service
with
a
fine
tradition
of
service.
You
might
as
well
contract
out
the
work
to
civilians
as
go
this
way.
Yours
Sincerely
Thor
Lund
PS
in
case
its
escaped
your
attention,
the
majority
of
conflicts
we
are
engaged
in
overseas
are
against
Muslim
extremists.
Try
and
define
the
difference
here.
Authors
name
and
address
supplied.
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SAILOR
Have you stood on a bridge at midnight
Not a bridge over a rippling stream
But the bridge of a warship steamer
Deep laden and slim of beam
Have you gazed out into the darkness
With rain blinding spray and sore eyes
Cursing the fate that brought you
To a race with so poor a prize
Have you sweated in a red hot galley
Over a pot of Irish stew,
Cursing the three bell dinner
And waiting for a good hot brew
Have you toiled deep down in the bilges
Deep 'neath the lubber line mark
Where the engines grind out their horse power
And the stokers spew in the dark
If you have, then you'll understand me
And the story I'm trying to tell
Of men who leave home love and comfort
For a modified form of hell
You think it's all plain sailing
On beautiful tropical seas
Basking on deck in the sunshine
And fanned by a gentle breeze
But no, they sweat to the sun in the tropics
And they freeze to the bone at the poles
Facing natures mighty wrath
Hungry for human souls
So if tonight your window panes rattle
And you complain that you cannot sleep
Think of the life these sailors lead
Out on the raging deep.
For these are just poor mortals
Drifting in life's human stream
Who fight and win their battles
Nightmares to you, if you dream.
These are the men ordained by God
That the words of your prayer may come true
"Give us this day our daily bread"
And give the poor sailor his due.
Anon

Stoker's
Lament
Now each of us from time to time, has gazed upon the sea.
And watched the warships pulling out, to keep this country free.
And most of us have read a book, or heard a lusty tale.
About the men who sail these ships, through lightening, wind and hail.
But there's a place within each ship, that legend fails to reach.
It's down below the waterline, it takes a living toil-
A hot metal living hell, that sailors call the "HOLE".
It houses engines run by steam, that make the shafts go 'round.
A place of fire and noise and heat, that beats your spirits down.
Where boilers like a hellish heart, with blood of angry steam
Are of molded gods without remorse, are nightmares in a dream.
Whose threat that from the first roar, is life living doubt,
That any minute would with scorn, escape and crush you out.
Where turbines scream like tortured souls, alone and lost in hell,
As ordered from above somewhere, they answer every bell.
The men who keep the fires lit, and make the engine run.
Are strangers to the world of night and rarely see the sun.
They have no time for man or God, no tolerance for fear,
Their aspect pays no living thing, the tribute of a tear.
For there's not much that men can do, that these men haven't done.
Beneath the decks, deep in the holes, to make the engines run.
And every hour of every day, they keep their watch in hell,
For if the fires ever fail, their ship's a useless shell.
When ships converge to have a war, upon an angry sea,
The men below just grimly smile, at what their fate might be.
They're locked in below like men fore doomed, who hear no battle cry,
It's well assumed that if they're hit, the men below will die.
For every day's a war down there when the gauges all read red,
Twelve hundred pounds of superheated steam, can kill you mighty dead.
So if you ever write their sons, or try to tell their tale,
the very words would make you hear, a fired furnace's wail.
These men of steel the Public never gets to know
So little's heard about the Place, that sailors call the hole.
But I can sing about the place, and try to make you see
The hardened life of men down there, cause one of them is me.
I've seen these sweat soaked heroes fight, in superheated air.
To keep their ship alive and right, though no one knows they're there.
And thus they'll fight for ages on, til steamships sail no more,
Amid the boiler's mighty heat and turbines hellish roar.
So when you see a ship pull out to meet a warship foe.
Remember faintly, if you can, the men who sail below.

Our
Flag
Author:
Unknown
Our
Flag wears the stars that blaze at night,
In our Southern skies of blue,
And a little old flag in the corner,
That’s part of our heritage too.
It’s
for the English, the Scots and the Irish,
Who were sent to the ends of the earth,
The rogues and schemers, the doers and dreamers,
Who gave modern
Australia
its birth.
And
you, who are shouting to change it,
You don’t seem to understand,
It’s the flag of our laws and our language,
Not the flag of a faraway land.
Though
there are plenty of people who'll tell you,
How when
Europe
was plunged into night,
That little old flag in the corner,
Was their symbol of freedom and light.
It
doesn’t mean we owe allegiance,
To a forgotten imperial dream,
We’ve the stars to show where we’re going,
And the old flag to show where we’ve been.
It’s
only an old piece of bunting,
It’s only an old piece of rag,
But there are thousands who’ve died for its honour,
And shed of their blood for OUR FLAG.

Why
I Liked The Navy
I
LIKED
standing on the bridge wing at sunrise with salt spray in my
face and clean ocean winds whipping in from the four
quarters
of the globe, the ship beneath me feeling like a living thing as
her engines drive her through the sea.
I
LIKED
the sounds of the Navy, the piercing trill of the boatswains
call,
the syncopated clanger of the ships bell, the harsh
squawk
of the main broadcast and the salty language and laughter of
sailors at work
I
LIKED
Navy vessels, sleek darting destroyers, plodding fleet
auxiliaries, dark submarines and dedicated survey vessels
I
LIKED
the proud names of Navy ships - Melbourne, Sydney
I
LIKED
the lean angular names of Navy destroyers Anzac, Vendetta,
Vampire, and Voyager
I
LIKED
the tempo of a Navy band blaring through the upper deck speakers
as we pull away from the tanker after refuelling at sea
I
LIKED
the pipe "libertymen fall in" and the spicy scent of a
foreign port
I
LIKED
sailors, men from all parts of the land, from city and country
alike and all walks of life, I trust and depend on them
as
they trust and depend on me for professional competence,
comradeship and courage, in a word they are shipmates
I
LIKED the
surge of adventure in my heart when the word is passed Special
Sea Dutymen close up"
I
LIKED
the infectious thrill of sighting home again, the waving hands
of welcome from family and friends. The work is hard
and
dangerous, the going rough at times, the parting from loved ones
painful but the companionship of robust Navy laughter
the
all for one and one for all philosophy of the sea is ever
present
I
LIKED the
serenity of the sea after a day of hard ships work, the beer
issue, watching flying fish flit across the wave tops
as sunset gives way to night
I
LIKED
the feel of the Navy in darkness the masthead lights the red and
green navigation lights and the stern light,
the
pulsating phosphorescence of radar screens
I
LIKED
drifting off to sleep lulled by the myriad of noises large and
small that tell me that my ship is alive and well and
that
my shipmates on watch will keep me safe
I
LIKED
quiet middle watches with the aroma of cocoa on a winters night
I
LIKED
hectic watches when the exacting minuet of haze grey shapes
racing at full speed keeps all hands on a razor edge of
alertness
I
LIKED
the sudden electricity of "action stations" followed
by the hurried clamour of running feet on ladders and the
resounding
thump of watertight doors and hatches as the ship transforms
herself from the peaceful workplace to a
weapon
of war ready for anything
I
LIKED
the sight of space age equipment manned by kids clad in overalls
and sound powered phones that their
grandfathers
would still recognize
I
LIKED
the traditions of the Navy and the men who made them and the
heroism of the men who sailed in the ships of yesteryear.
An
adolescent can find adulthood. In years to come when
sailors are home from the sea they will still remember with
fondness and
respect the ocean in all its moods, the impossible shimmering
mirror calm and the storm tossed grey water surging over
the
bow, and then there will come again a faint whiff of stack gas,
a faint echo of engine and rudder orders a vision
of
the bright bunting of signal flags snapping at the yardarm a
refrain of hearty laughter.
Gone
ashore for good they will grow wistfil about their Navy days,
when the seas belonged to them
and
a new port of call was ever over the horizon, remembering this
they will stand taller and say
"
I was a Sailor once, I was part of the Navy and the Navy will
always be part of me"
THAT'S
WHY I LOVE THE NAVY

HMAS
Cerberus Museum - Link

Sailors in the
Making
HMAS
Cerberus in the '60s - Link

Life
on the Ocean Waves - Interesting Read
- pdf

The Demise of Jack Tar - author
unknown.
The traditional male sailor was not defined by his looks. He was defined by
his attitude; his name was Jack Tar.
He was a happy go lucky sort of bloke; he took the good times with the bad.
He didn't cry victimisation, bastardisation, discrimination or for his mum
when things didn't go his way.
He took responsibility for his own sometimes, self-destructive actions.
He loved a laugh at anything or anybody. Rank, gender, race, creed or
behaviour, it didn't matter to Jack, he would take the piss out of anyone,
including himself. If someone took it out of him he didn't get offended; it
was a natural part of life. If he offended someone else, so be it. Free from
many of the rules of polite society, Jack's manners were somewhat rough. His
ability to swear was legendary.
Jack loved women. He loved to chase them to the ends of the earth and
sometimes he even caught one (less often than he would have you believe
though). His tales of the chase and its conclusion win or lose, is the stuff
of legends.
Jack's favourite drink was beer, and he could drink it like a fish. His
actions when inebriated would, on occasion, land him in trouble. But, he took
it on the chin, did his punishment and then went and did it all again.
Jack loved his job. He took an immense pride in what he did. His radar was
always the best in the fleet. His engines always worked better than anyone
else's. His eyes could spot a contact before anyone else's and shoot at it
first. It was a matter of personal pride. Jack was the consummate professional
when he was at work and sober.
He was a bit like a mischievous child. He had a gleam in his eye and a larger
than life outlook. He was as rough as guts. You had to be pig headed and thick
skinned to survive. He worked hard and played hard. His masters tut-tutted at
some of his more exuberant expressions of joie de vivre, and the occasional
bout of number 9's or stoppage let him know where his limits were.
The late 20th Century and on, has seen the demise of Jack. The workplace no
longer echoes with ribald comment and bawdy tales.
Someone is sure to take offence. Where as, those stories of daring do and
ingenuity in the face of adversity, usually whilst pissed, lack the audacity
of the past.
A wicked sense of humour is now a liability, rather that a necessity. Jack has
been socially engineered out of existence. What was once normal is now
offensive. Denting someone else's over inflated opinion of their own self
worth is now a crime.
AND SO A CULTURE DIES.

Enough
is enough. This certainly must be the finish!
We Are Broke
Please circulate widely!
Every Australian should know about
this travesty...........
Isn't
this a right bloody ripoff by K. Rudd and Wong!!!
Well,
would you believe it....flooding throughout Queensland and the Government asks
people to
donate to an appeal set up to help the victims of flood in places such a
Roma and Charleville in Queensland.
The Governments, Federal and State, are appealing to the public (once
again - bearing in mind the bush fire
victims in Victoria still haven't - in the majority of cases - received
much, if any, financial assistance from the
millions we Australians contributed to that appeal) to come to the aid of
the victims of flood in Queensland
(they really have suffered greatly and really do need all the help they
can get).
Well hello!!!!!!!!!!!!...the
Australian public have been asked again to help disaster
victims....Governments, at this time, have contributed nothing, but ordinary
Australians should.
That, however, is not the case where Indonesia (where Muslim inhabitants
are rapidly approaching 80% of that
countries total population) is concerned. How much money did we give
them just a short time ago...where did
that go....not much to any 'victims'.
Well.....believe
this. Today is Thursday the 4th March, 2010 and they are imploring
us to donate and help the flood victims in Queensland because they still don't
have 'emergency funds' in place to help Australians during a crisis.
But just yesterday,
Wednesday the 3rd March, 2010 (yes, yesterday, suckers) the Federal
Government announced that they would give Indonesia 30
million dollars (of your money) to help them....wait for it.....'preserve
forests'.
To preserve
forests...! Do you believe it......they have got to be kidding (the
Indonesian government is almost solely responsible for the decimation of
Indonesian's forests and they justify it on the basis of 'we need the money').
Thanks Kevin, what a
magnanimous gesture, we knew we could depend on you....you false pretender,
criminal
b*****d, who wants to be the world leader of 'who knows what'.
When did you ever get a mandate to give 'our' money away to foreigners,
for any cause, let alone on the basis of climate change. Absolutely nobody
else in the world believes all the crap - but you...and we truly doubt that you
believe it either Kevin...eh...isn't it simply about taxing us further, so you
can give it away and ingratiate yourself to all and sundry (what a wonderful man
you are).
Have a look at the
attachment from the Daily Telegraph, Wednesday 3rd March, 2010 page 19.
This is bullshit. When,
oh when, are Australians going to wake up....


Laws of the Navy
... pdf

New
Generation Veterans
We
honour our old veterans, we honour them with pride,
And
read of all the horrors they have carried deep inside,
We
know they served in Asia or
New Guinea
’s highland rains,
Vietnam
or in
Africa
where many men were slain.
We
know that fateful landing on Gallipoli’s dark shore,
Wherever
Aussies fought, we know there are so many more,
But
now a new young generation needs our help as well,
They
too have been to war and suffer with their private hell.
Though
losses are not classed as great, their fears are just the same,
Those
electronic hidden bombs, still injure, kill or maim,
They
fight against an enemy they find so hard to see,
Who
mingle in the market place, then cause much tragedy.
Insurgents
in
Afghanistan
hide in the rough terrain,
Or
roaming in
Iraq
, where, wearing robes they look the same,
The
suicide stealth bombers, don’t care who they hurt or kill,
Then,
with their own beliefs, they try to break our forces will.
Our
fighting Aussie spirit shows on any foreign land,
They’re
in the skies, they’re on the sea, or on the desert sand,
Now
many are returning with the horrors they still see,
And
living with their nightmares, suffering bureaucracy.
I
know on ANZAC Day, we all remember with a tear,
But
ALL vets, young or old, they need our help throughout the year,
Support
and listen to their stories, when they do get told,
Let’s
honour our NEW
veterans, just like we do our old.
David
J Delaney
10/02/2010
©

HMAS VOYAGER MODEL

The
model is just over 16 feet/5m long. It was scratch built by Ken Taylor.
The
scale used was 1/24. It took over nine years to build.

T&PI
War Veterans To Miss Out On Payout
Sent:
Monday, December 08, 2008 8:09 PM
Can
you please pass this to your lists
for
widest dissemination?
Norman
J Rowe, AM
7023
Springfield Drive
Hope
Island
Qld 4212
Australia
I was informed by a veteran VVAA office bearer friend of mine that
T&PI’s who are not drawing a Service Pension would not be receiving
the Federal Government’s Bonus payment.
I was amazed at this news and so I started to make some calls. I spoke with
Graham Edwards - former MHR, and then to
Blue Ryan
– President of T&PI Association to find out that whilst this is not
entirely correct, the payments will go to all TPI’s over 60 years of age
and TPI’s under 60 years of age who are drawing Service Pension. (Also,
apparently, many War widows may miss out. This is yet to be confirmed. But
if true is another cruel omission.)
This means that Veterans of the last two or Three years of the Vietnam War
who are not yet 60, Vets of Namibia, Somalia, Desert Storm, East Timor,
Bougainville, Iraq, and Afghanistan who are T&PI and who are not on
Service Pensions will miss out.
In many cases, this is a cruel anomaly. A Vietnam veteran who was called up
for service and spent his tour of duty during the last two years of the war,
who is carrying severe war c
au
sed disabilities, but whose spouse is earning more than $40,000 p.a. is not
eligible. This is yet another insult to people ( many of whom were press
ganged into service by National Service) who served their country, have been
treated as pariahs for many years of their lives, have carried war related
disabilities, and have had their entitlements eroded badly by the Keating
Government and by subsequent Governments since, will not have access to the
money being handed out by the Rudd Government..
This Federal Government has shown a great deal of compassion to Veterans in
the last year, it would be a shame to have their copy book blotted by a bure
au
cratic, arbitrary line in the sand which is clearly discriminatory.
Normie Rowe, AM
07 5530 8757 (ph/fax)
0418 258 158 (mob)
International +61 7 5530 8757(ph/fax)
+61 418 258 158 (mob)
normie@bigpond.net.au
normie@normierowe.com
www.normierowe.com

MELAMINE
CONTAMINATION
&
BAR CODES .... PDF

Agent Orange and Prostate
Cancer ... pdf
Read this and remember get
your check ups

Well said Tom
UNCLASSIFIED
It must be that time of the year again, the following was sent to Channel 7
Sunrise program on the 3 SEP 08 0635h in response to Kochie getting on his
soapbox and suggesting we change the union jack for the aboriginal flag.
Your remarks on the Australian flag have surprised and shocked me, I am an
Australian soldier that has served my country for over 16 years both at home
and deployed overseas. Your suggestion that we should get rid of the union
jack and replace it with the aboriginal flag is insulting. It is only while we
were a British colony and eventually an independent country in 1901 that the
modern Australia was formed. By your reasoning as a democracy we should have a
Chinese or Greek or Irish flag in the top corner as there are more people from
this background than of the indigenous population. You went to the middle east
last year to see our serving soldiers and you were quick to come back a sprook
about how professional the soldiers, sailors and airman were over there and
how they were doing our country proud. It is amazing how short the medias
memory is when it chooses to, because those same service men and women you
spoke of are the proud custodians of the customs and traditions of the
Australia Flag. Currently tens of thousands have now served under that
Australian Flag in Iraq and Afghanistan and East Timor. You only need look at
the young people at gatherings such as ANZAC Day, Australia Day, or even
backpacking across the world to see that they are not ashamed to be seen
wearing or draping the flag over themselves. Kochie if you find our flag that
offensive then I suggest you have a long hard look at yourself in the mirror
and ask yourself a simple question, " Am I really proud to be Australian
and the things we have accomplished over the last 200 years". If the
answer is no then I suggest you leave this country as there are plenty of
people in other countries that are literally dying to come here and be part of
this great nation. I personally think your ego has got the better of you
Kochie, and you have got some sort of god complex, but that another thing I
can fix since I live in a democracy were the freedom has already been paid for
with the blood of our young and continue pay to serve our country. I have been
a loyal watcher of sunrise since the very beginning, but this is the final
straw, today I start watching the other channels in the morning. P.S. I won't
expect a reply as I'm sure you will just delete it because after all I'm
soldier that the media couldn't give two stuffs about unless I stuff up and
then the media is quick to bash the Army on any pretext to increase the
ratings, and I will take the liberty to pass this email onto everyone I known
in the Army so they can know about your comments too.
SGT Tom Cross
Proud member of the RAEME MAFIA

SACRIFICE
AND RECOGNITION [PDF]
HAVE A LOOK AT THIS AND THEN READ THE
ARTICLE
HEROES AND ATHLETES below
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Let There Be No
Moaning at the Bar
Old sailors sit
And chew the fat
About things that used to be,
Of the things they've seen
The places they've been,
When they ventured out to sea.
** **
They remembered friends
From long ago,
The times they had back then,
The money they spent,
The beer they drank,
In their days as sailing men.
** **
Their lives are lived
In the days gone by
With the thoughts that forever last.
Of the bell bottom blues,
Round white hats,
And good times in their past.
** **
They recall long nights
With the moon so bright
Far out into the lonely sea.
The thoughts they had
As youthful lads,
When their lives were wild and free.
** **
They know so well
How their hearts would swell
When the flag fluttered proud and free.
The underway pennant
Such a beautiful sight
As they plowed through an angry sea.
** **
They talked of the chow
Ol' cookie would make
And the shrill of the bos'n pipe.
How salt spray would fall
Like sparks from hell
When a storm struck in the night.
** **
They remember old shipmates
Already gone
Who forever hold a spot in their heart,
When sailors were bold,
And friendships would hold,
Until death ripped them apart.
** **
They speak of nights
Spent in bawdy houses
On many foreign shore,
Of the beer they'd down
As gathering around,
Telling jokes with a busty whore.
** **
Their sailing days
Are gone away,
Never again will they cross the brow.
They have no regrets,
They know they are blessed,
For honoring the sacred vow.
** **
Their numbers grow less
With each passing day
As the final muster begins,
There's nothing to lose,
All have paid their dues,
And they'll sail with shipmates again.
** **
I've heard them say
Before getting underway
That there's still some sailing to do,
They'll say with a grin that their ship has come in,
And the Good Lord is commanding the crew.
Courtesy of C.M.
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The
Spirit of ANZAC
I saw a kid marching with medals on his chest,
He marched alongside Diggers marching six abreast.
He knew that it was ANZAC Day – he walked along with pride.
He did his best to keep in step with the Diggers by his side.
And when the march was over the kid was rather tired,
A Digger said, "Whose medals, Son?" to which the kid replied,
"They belong to Daddy, but he did not come back…
He died up in New Guinea, on a lonely jungle track."
The kid looked rather sad then and a tear came to his eye,
The Digger said, "Don’t cry my son and I will tell you why.
Your Daddy marched with us today – all the blooming way,
We Diggers know that he was there – its like that on ANZAC Day.."
The kid looked rather puzzled and didn’t understand …
But the Digger went on talking and started to wave his hand.
"For this great land we live in, there’s a price we have to pay.
For we all love fun and merriment in this country where we live.
The price was that some soldier his precious live must give.
For you to go to school, my lad and worship God at will…
Someone had to pay the price so the Diggers paid the bill.
Your Daddy died for us, my son – for all things good and true.
I wonder if you understand the things I’ve said to you?"
The kid looked up at the Digger – just for a little while…
And with a changed expression, said, with a lovely smile:
"I know my Dad marched here today – this is ANZAC Day.
I know he did. I know he did … all the blooming way."
D. Hunter (a
veteran of shaggy Ridge with the 2/12 Battn in WWII)
Courtesy G.T. & The Buzz
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HEROES AND ATHLETES.
By
Paul Martino, Sapper, Nui Dat south Vietnam 70/71. Son of
Kenneth
Martino, R/O HMS Hardy, Torpedoed North Atlantic Run WW II; Grandson
of Dominic Martino, Soldier, Green Howards. Machine Gunned France WWI.
The Athlete
T he Swimmer touches the
tiles, winning his race by 1000th of
a second,
He is hailed mightily throught the country as a "Hero."
The overweight Weightlifer lifts and extra 10lbs. He too is called a
"Hero."
The too-lean Cyclist in fancy colours wins by a lead of milliseconds.
Apoplectic newscasters go into hysterical cardiac fits.
The Javelin Thrower’s spear goes that extra yard, yet another "Hero"
The sweat stained runner wins by two yards and we’ve got another
"Hero."
Let the screaming thousands of sightless, mindless drunkards, loose,
Headed by our disgusting cricket mad, overenthusiastic Prime Minister, lose
on a cricket Pitch,
And if you believe him, we have a team of the greatest "Heroes" who
ever
existed.
"Heroes" all, these sportsmen, if you are uncaring and believe in
fairy stories-
For this is the new cheap sensationalism. Every Australian athlete is now a
"Hero," Merely to stir up long wanted forgotten patriotism, to forget
about
the real Heroes.
To quickly forget those who actually gave their all, and get on with
"real" life,
That the pampered Athlete might continue his life of uninterrupted luxury.
That he might immediately receive the best medical treatment to be had,
The best clothes money can buy, the finest food, and luxury accommodation,
Ticker tape parades, screaming crownds of the ever forgetful at every move.
More of a welcome that the most true Hero, existing in peaceful silence, ever
got."Hero" the soft, pampered, Athelete is definitely not!
The Hero
Lays quietly, in peace, forever at rest in a turbulent false
world
In mysteriously, well tended endless soft rolling green fields
Scattered around the world, all enveloped in an eerie peaceful silence.
In acres of fields lined with hundreds of thousands simple white crosses
In absolute parade ground precision of the living.
No cheering of the enthusiastic apoplectic sports commentator here,
No enthusiasm by any Government Official, or Prime Minister of note,
The true Hero all too quickly forgotten by those many who never served.
And yet luckily, there are those of us, who returned,
Left to remember as we grow old,
And remember we will. Forever.
For there’s Homage to pay.
And pay you will, you spoiled majority.
Those same families who never served, the same sons of the same rich,
For we will never let you forget the real Hero beneath those humble
white crosses
Laying in eternity, silently at peace, in those roughly hewn graves,
These are the Heroes. These are the men and women, who gave their all,
Who really went the extra inch, who lifted far more than the ten pounds
In living conditions unimaginable by today’s generations.
Their opposition was deadly aplenty, their lot – filthy ragged clothing,
bad food, Expected to perform their best in all weather, hot, cold,
raining, dry, and freezing.
Day or Night. Rested or not. Neither hunger nor thirst a factor of any
consideration.
No clean clear smooth quiet, peacefully pathway for these men and women.
No first class medical treatment, for strains or painful wounds, on call
day and night.
And yet shamefully you all forget, they too won their competition
regardless!
Except there was no handshake at the end of their race. Just exhaustion.
Out of respect for the true Hero, get it right. An Athlete is after all, just
an Athlete.
The surviving Hero often arrives home
in the quiet darkness of night,
No greetings, Medals in his pocket, kitbag on his shoulder,
Expecting no more. And getting even less.
Courtesy G.T. & The
Buzz
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THE SPECIAL BREED – THE ENGINE ROOM
BRANCH
Since the war ended, there’s been many stories told
Of heroes on the upper deck, these sailors brave and bold.
Facing enemy aircraft, dodging enemy shells,
Their gunnery ever accurate, as the ship rides o’er the swells.
I’m the first to say with pride, the ‘SHROPSHIRE’ had the best.
For many times they saved the ship, when put to the test.
But spare a though for the engine room branch; the stokers born and bred.
Whose job it was to propel the ship and the engineer who led
The "dustmen" as they are affectionately known, are a special breed,
But not too much is written about their various deeds.
Down in the engine room spaces where temperatures rise so high,
At action stations, for days on end, never seeing the sky,
Where it’s roasting hot in daytime and boiling hot at night,
And the bravery thought of bully beef, made you lose your appetite.
Where the screaming of the turbines, play havoc with your ears,
And your throat gets dry and parched and you’d love an ice-cold beer.
Where the dynamos are as hot as hell and the devil wanted to know,
"Could he swap them for his furnace and take them down below?"
When we were called to action, we were quick
From watchkeeping in the engine room to handling shells in the bowels of the
ship.
Or, up on the four inch gun deck, to tote the shells
So, the gunners could keep firing and maybe have a spell.
The telegraph spins around and orders from bridge come through
The stokers are quick to act, as they know their jobs
The skipper needs precision as he handles the tiller,
Again it is the stokers who help him manoeuvre the ship.
Then comes a lull in action and heads to nearest port
The "upper deck" get a "Make and Mend" stokers report for
duty,
The engines need attention, vats are full of scale,
The boilers have to be shut down and clean before sailing,
Pumps and bearings to overhaul, before morning light,
These are necessary, so, we work through the night.
This will benefit all the crew, with water, heat, power,
For drinking, cooking, dobie-ing, and nice hot showers,
There’s much more I could write, re the engine room branch,
And I guess I’m biased, when given half a chance,
But were would all the sailors be, if not for the engineers’ crew.
Who always get them home, when a leave is due.
Indeed, we were a lucky ship and toast the whole ships’ crew,
They were the best ships’ company, a skipper could have, ‘tis true
It’s just that stokers are quiet achievers, out of sight and out of mind,
And to be recognised for their efforts, would be rather kind,
So, when the accolades are bandied about, with unbiased attention,
Spare a thought for the stokers … just give us a mention.
Jim Murtagh.
(Jim Murtagh had the distinction of being one of only three
engine room branch that served from before
commissioning to the paying-off
of HMAS SHROPSHIRE. She commissioned into RAN 20 Apr 1943 and
paid off 20 May 1947. Ron Frasa HMAS SHROPSHIRE)
Courtesy G.T. & The Buzz
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The
Final Inspection
The
Soldier stood and faced his God,
Which must always come to pass.
He
hoped his shoes were shining
Just as brightly as his brass.
"Step
forward now, you Soldier,
How shall I deal with you?
Have
you always turned the other cheek?
To My Church have you been true?"
The Soldier squared his shoulders and said,
"No, my Lord, I ain't.
Because those of us who carry guns,
Can't always be a saint.
I've had to work most Sundays,
And at times my talk was tough,
And sometimes I've been violent,
Because the world is awfully rough.
But, I never took a dollar,
That wasn't mine to keep..
Though I worked a lot of overtime,
When the bills got just too steep.
And I never passed a cry for help,
Though at times I shook with fear.
And sometimes, God, forgive me,
I've wept unmanly tears.
I know I don't deserve a place,
Among the people here.
They never wanted me around,
Except to calm their fears.
If you've a place for me here, Lord,
It needn't be so grand.
I never expected or had too much,
But if you don't, I'll understand.
There was a silence all around the throne,
Where the Saints had often trod.
As the Soldier waited quietly,
For the judgment of his God.
"Step forward now, you Soldier,
You've borne your burdens well.
Walk peacefully on Heaven's streets,
You've done your time in Hell."
~Author
Unknown~
Courtesy C.M.
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